in comparison to my old Toyo Proxes T1-S. I could make the Kumhos screech around a corner but not so with the Toyos. Also, they don't look as agressive. Looking at the tires from the side, they look kinda plain. But the Toyos...they looked awesome; you get the feeling that the car is fast - even if it isn't. I'll be saving my money to get the Toyos again in the next go round. (They are hard to find though and expensive $160/tire).